Well done Andy.
More power to you
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| Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:58 am ] |
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Thanks again for all your help. I was asking for design help for guitar #2 because my first guitar was a bit boomy etc. Well, here is the great news. I brought the guitar into Buffalo Bros. Guitars here in San Diego. They are a very high end shop that has literally hundreds of acoustics on the floor....from Goodall to Martin to Huss and Dalton to Weber.... No Small builders, but very good guitars and incredibly knowledgeable people. Someone else here on the OLF did the same....brought it into a shop to be critiqued and shot down. Well they loved the guitar. As far as boominess, they brought the guitar into the repair shop and did some adjustments and gave me some advice. The lead repairman is also a luthier. He then had about 8 sales people play it and they loved the warm woody sound of the cedar & cocobolo. They thought it was well balanced and that I should build another like it. I had a problem with my low E string that was contributing to some of my sound issues. I am a beginner in both playing and building so my judgement of the sound was based on no experience. Also, they spent about 2 hours with me and all the advice and set up issues were free. They were great. I did buy my Baby Taylor there, but they certainly didn't need to do all that they did. One person wanted me to come back with a contour gauge to mark out the shapes of a lot guitar necks so that I could improve mine. (they thought it was a bit flat) I told them how I built it with all of the help of the OLF and they were amazed. There is no way it would have been that good of a guitar without all of the AWESOME help you have given me. Thanks again The Newbie Andy |
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| Author: | RussellR [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:09 am ] |
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Well done Andy. More power to you
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| Author: | Terry Stowell [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:24 am ] |
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Andy, What did the luthier do as far as adjustment? (to affect the boominess) Good on ya mate! |
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| Author: | Bobc [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:48 am ] |
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Hey Andy that's good news indeed. It sure helps boost one's ego knowing your on the right path. |
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| Author: | Jason [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:49 am ] |
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[QUOTE=azimmer1] Thanks again for all your help. I was asking for design help for guitar #2 because my first guitar was a bit boomy etc. Well, here is the great news. I brought the guitar into Buffalo Bros. Guitars here in San Diego. They are a very high end shop that has literally hundreds of acoustics on the floor....from Goodall to Martin to Huss and Dalton to Weber.... No Small builders, but very good guitars and incredibly knowledgeable people. Someone else here on the OLF did the same....brought it into a shop to be critiqued and shot down. Well they loved the guitar. As far as boominess, they brought the guitar into the repair shop and did some adjustments and gave me some advice. The lead repairman is also a luthier. He then had about 8 sales people play it and they loved the warm woody sound of the cedar & cocobolo. They thought it was well balanced and that I should build another like it. I had a problem with my low E string that was contributing to some of my sound issues. I am a beginner in both playing and building so my judgement of the sound was based on no experience. Also, they spent about 2 hours with me and all the advice and set up issues were free. They were great. I did buy my Baby Taylor there, but they certainly didn't need to do all that they did. One person wanted me to come back with a contour gauge to mark out the shapes of a lot guitar necks so that I could improve mine. (they thought it was a bit flat) I told them how I built it with all of the help of the OLF and they were amazed. There is no way it would have been that good of a guitar without all of the AWESOME help you have given me. Thanks again The Newbie Andy [/QUOTE] I'm impressed, thats awesome they were so cool. I had a local shop do pretty much the opposite. As soon as they knew I wasn't there to buy a guitar they pretty much wanted me to leave.. *sigh* |
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| Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:09 am ] |
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Some of the problems in the base related to a poorly sitting bridge pin on the low E. The ball of the string was not seated correctly. Also, my nut was a bit high and needed to be filed down and the angle of the nut slots were not steep enough. The action was a bit high, but I did this on purpose until the guitar settled a bit. Now that it has I filed down the saddle a bit. A lot of the sound "problem" was my poor playing. They have some very fine players there and when I heard the guitar played by them, it sounded just fine. Thanks again Andy |
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| Author: | CarltonM [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:30 am ] |
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[QUOTE=azimmer1] A lot of the sound "problem" was my poor playing. They have some very fine players there and when I heard the guitar played by them, it sounded just fine.[/QUOTE] You know, I think it's really quite rare for a newer builder to under-judge the sound of his instrument. Some I've known about think their latest guitar is a "cannon," when it sounds more like a pie tin. Gotta give you an "attaboy" for really listening critically. Also for having the fortitude to ask some experts what they really think! You've taken some giant steps toward making real-world good guitars. A tip of the hat as well to the guys at Buffalo Bros. for taking the time to help and encourage you.
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| Author: | Dave Anderson [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:00 am ] |
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Buff. Bros. sure sounds like a fine place. I'M glad your guitar turned out good and they took the time to help you out. Way to go Andy ! |
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| Author: | Colin S [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:29 pm ] |
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That's really great, it's rare in this over commercial world that people are glad to help for altruistic reasons alone rather than just to make a buck. They sound like good people. OK, so now on to #2, I'd go with the same guitar but using a European top. The top, as we are always saying is, acoustically, the most important component, so see what difference it makes. It's good not to change too many things at once. You've obviously built a fine sounding guitar (great feeling isn't it!), remember the issues that were shown up and get to it. Oh, and don't forget to take time to sit down take out #1 and tickle it's strings, both you and #1 will appreciate it. Colin |
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| Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:39 am ] |
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Thanks for all the kind words It is a great ego boost, since I thought I build a bit of a dud. Andy |
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